Scott Wapner (Host of Closing Bell) 00:00.110
open a eyes sam altman on the record with big technologies alex kantrowitz in a podcast that has just literally dropped alex is a CNBC contributor he joins us now what i get
Alex Kantrowitz (Founder and CNBC Contributor) 00:11.990
thank you congratulations it's great to speak with him so this
Scott Wapner (Host of Closing Bell) 00:14.350
is literally literally hitting what what's the big takeaway for you
Alex Kantrowitz (Founder and CNBC Contributor) 00:17.350
the big takeaway is of course open AI is code in code red right they acknowledge they have the competition from companies like google but sam 's vision is not to play on google 's field right google is basically taking AI and putting it into every of its product surfaces surge
Alex Kantrowitz (Founder and CNBC Contributor) 00:31.870
and gmail you know maps youtube for sam the idea is the AI moment right now is going to change the way we use software he's talking about AI native software versus bolting this on to existing programs and he wants to get users in first and keep them and that's how he thinks he's
Alex Kantrowitz (Founder and CNBC Contributor) 00:49.110
going to win you've
Scott Wapner (Host of Closing Bell) 00:49.750
given us a couple of clips here i want to play the first one where he addresses the competition with google head on let's listen google
Sam Altman (CEO) 01:00.940
is still a huge threat you know extremely powerful company if google had really decided to take us seriously in two thousand twenty three let's say we would have been in a really bad place i think they would have just been able to smash us
Scott Wapner (Host of Closing Bell) 01:19.750
OK so it's interesting that that he says that because last week you know he was on the network with the interview with david faber and bob iger in which he says of gemini three that it hasn't impacted our metrics as much as we had feared that's his perspective i had sung cho
Scott Wapner (Host of Closing Bell) 01:38.350
from goldman sachs on this program the other day he's the co head of public tech investing at goldman sachs he says that google has taken the lead in the eye of investors over open AI that they have leaped over over open what do you think well here's the
Alex Kantrowitz (Founder and CNBC Contributor) 01:53.430
perspective of open AI and sam made this very clear he said AI in a way is like a brand of toothpaste most people pick a brand of toothpaste and they just stick with it they just go to the supermarket and they buy it every time and they don't think about it chat GPT has eight
Alex Kantrowitz (Founder and CNBC Contributor) 02:07.110
hundred million maybe getting close to nine hundred million users it's leading on time spent according to some independent reports so what he's saying is i want to get people in the door first show them what we can do and build personalization right memory for him learning who
Alex Kantrowitz (Founder and CNBC Contributor) 02:20.510
you are remembering who you are and then building personalized experience for you is something that he says is unbelievably sticky so if he can get people in the door first and he has to fight for every user in a way that google doesn't because google can just push it but if he
Alex Kantrowitz (Founder and CNBC Contributor) 02:33.870
can get people in the door first to chat GPT he thinks he'll be able to hold on to them for a long time
Scott Wapner (Host of Closing Bell) 02:38.310
it is interesting though you use the words code red i mean you you get the sense that they really feel that in the building
Alex Kantrowitz (Founder and CNBC Contributor) 02:45.670
the way sam described it is it's kind of a funny analogy he said it's like a pandemic when a pandemic begins is the stuff that you do really early on makes a big difference you want to try to mitigate some of the disasters before there are exponential growth and you're now
Alex Kantrowitz (Founder and CNBC Contributor) 02:58.750
behind the eight ball and so what he says is open AI does this every now and again they did it with deep seek back in earlier this year they're doing it again now trying to get ahead of the problem that could come from competition from google and putting their energy now as
Alex Kantrowitz (Founder and CNBC Contributor) 03:12.230
opposed to trying to address it after the fact