Andrew Ross Sorkin (Anchor) 00:00.150
retailers bracing for the final few shopping days before christmas joining us now with her top picks in the sector heading into twenty twenty six dana telsey telsey advisory groups chief research officer and CEO good morning to you we always love getting a pulse check from you
Andrew Ross Sorkin (Anchor) 00:14.230
about what is actually happening out there since you often are walking i imagine even this past weekend through the stores seeing what's happening so what is happening
Dana Telsey (Chief Research Officer and CEO) 00:23.910
happy holidays andrew thank you for having me what is happening you basically had a super saturday which is definitely a pretty good saturday very good traffic you need it in order to make the season it seems like that three and a half four percent sales growth is pretty much
Dana Telsey (Chief Research Officer and CEO) 00:38.710
baked in and what's happening consumers are buying they're watching the prices carefully and overall it's assortment and its activation that's driving demand you need to get it right now and that buy online pick up in store is really critical in order to have the goods for for
Dana Telsey (Chief Research Officer and CEO) 00:55.070
their recipients and their
Andrew Ross Sorkin (Anchor) 00:56.430
family for thursday who who impressed you so far and who did you walk into and see just not enough people there
Dana Telsey (Chief Research Officer and CEO) 01:04.950
i think a couple things i think who impressed me i mean victoria's secret is crowded you're continuing to see hollister very crowded and packed you look at urban outfitters particularly in free people and it's very strong and steve madden it's cold out so people are wearing tall
Dana Telsey (Chief Research Officer and CEO) 01:21.430
boots out there that's who's impressing me you still need more and also the the off prices like TJ maxx you still need more traffic at some of the women 's apparel retailers there's definitely work to be done but overall when you think about twenty six it's assortment and
Dana Telsey (Chief Research Officer and CEO) 01:37.870
activation that's going to drive appreciation given the world cup the olympics and america two fifty that's coming up
Andrew Ross Sorkin (Anchor) 01:46.350
OK tell me about department stores you by the way you walking into any nike stores we've been talking about nike all last week for example yeah
Dana Telsey (Chief Research Officer and CEO) 01:52.990
i walked into nike i saw the nike skims i saw some of the new products out there you're definitely seeing better traffic in nike than when you had just six months ago i was in macy's i even met santa claus went to the parade for the first time macy's has more new brands the
Dana Telsey (Chief Research Officer and CEO) 02:09.710
newness of brands that they have both in bloomingdale 's and macy's makes them the winner for department stores twenty six
Andrew Ross Sorkin (Anchor) 02:18.030
OK who would you not touch right now at all who was super disappointing
Dana Telsey (Chief Research Officer and CEO) 02:23.190
i think you have concerns out there certainly about some of the women 's apparel retailers i think you have concerns out there of the you need the tommy bahamas to improve out there you need the towards to improve out there some of the retailers that didn't adapt that didn't put
Dana Telsey (Chief Research Officer and CEO) 02:39.430
in advertising they're really struggling right now and you got to watch that you look at lulu look what has happened with lulu they need the newness also because activewear needs to be reinvigorated
Andrew Ross Sorkin (Anchor) 02:52.870
but is there any party that looks at lulu and where the stock is trading right now and says that's a buy that that there's an opportunity to fix that and if they do you that that'll be success or do you think the execution risk is just too high
Dana Telsey (Chief Research Officer and CEO) 03:04.590
i think they can fix it i mean i think those names of like jane nielsen who's been bandied about she's super capable i think that would be a win for the company i think they need to enhance the product i think you have more new product personnel there now that should give it
Dana Telsey (Chief Research Officer and CEO) 03:19.710
some interest and you know what you have to continue to get younger consumers and so the membership signups that they get think you got to track those membership signups and it shows the inflection point of the brand over time
Andrew Ross Sorkin (Anchor) 03:32.150
and then final question you remember years ago we said electronics were the new fashion and there was this moment where people didn't want to buy clothes they just wanted to buy electronics has that completely shifted his fashion now fashion again
Dana Telsey (Chief Research Officer and CEO) 03:43.990
fashion is fashion and you know why because we've gone way past the pandemic and people are going out again they're going to events they want to wear something new that's changed