The Fed chair endgame: Here's what to know
December 22, 2025 • 4m 49s
Joe Kernen (Co-Anchor of Squawk Box)
00:00.070
the
race
for
fed
chair
looks
to
be
entering
its
final
phase
said
this
a
future
or
does
it
because
now
we're
back
to
four
or
five
again
it's
four
Steve Liesman (Senior Economics Reporter)
00:09.030
you
missed
the
dropping
of
the
one
when
you
were
out
Joe Kernen (Co-Anchor of Squawk Box)
00:12.270
no
i
mean
i
was
reading
it
this
morning
that
both
kevins
are
back
in
wallers
in
and
readers
i
saw
that
senior
economics
reporter
steve
liesman
joins
us
with
the
details
hey
Steve Liesman (Senior Economics Reporter)
00:22.390
steve
joe
president
trump
's
extended
search
for
the
next
fed
chair
reaching
the
end
game
with
a
flurry
of
both
backroom
and
public
politics
and
people
familiar
with
the
situation
the
president
could
name
the
next
fed
chair
by
the
first
week
of
january
maybe
a
little
bit
later
Steve Liesman (Senior Economics Reporter)
00:34.950
after
interviewing
the
last
candidate
rick
reeder
in
the
final
week
of
the
year
mar
a
lago
one
question
remains
a
mystery
where
does
treasury
secretary
scott
besant
stand
in
all
of
this
here's
a
little
bit
of
the
talent
a
september
besson
announces
the
fed
chair
interview
Steve Liesman (Senior Economics Reporter)
00:49.030
process
potential
candidates
he
begins
interviews
and
then
he
writes
an
article
sharply
critical
of
the
fed
calling
for
reform
in
a
way
that
kevin
wash
had
october
tenth
CNBC
reported
that
beset
now
with
the
short
list
from
eleven
down
to
five
candidates
november
thirtieth
trump
Steve Liesman (Senior Economics Reporter)
01:06.110
telling
reporters
i
president
trump
that
is
i
know
who
i'm
going
to
pick
and
everyone
thinks
it's
kevin
hassett
december
second
the
fed
candidate
white
house
interviews
appeared
to
be
canceled
they
were
back
on
december
tenth
interviews
held
with
walsh
and
then
another
interview
Steve Liesman (Senior Economics Reporter)
01:21.630
held
with
waller
they
were
reported
on
on
friday
said
it
was
a
strong
interview
so
it's
unclear
these
interviews
got
back
on
track
there's
been
pushed
back
on
wall
street
against
tacit
as
reported
by
CNBC
politico
and
the
financial
times
that
have
said
that
have
set
in
part
Steve Liesman (Senior Economics Reporter)
01:35.910
there's
an
organized
campaign
that
he
was
too
close
to
the
president
but
also
appears
to
be
organic
pushback
besant
has
on
his
own
pushback
to
defend
hassett
that
criticism
could
have
prompted
the
administration
to
put
those
interviews
back
on
track
leading
to
some
volatility
Steve Liesman (Senior Economics Reporter)
01:52.030
you
can
see
in
the
coffee
prediction
market
those
are
monthly
changes
you
see
on
your
left
there
the
odds
have
now
steadied
with
hassett
the
clear
leader
people
familiar
with
the
situation
say
treasury
secretary
scott
besant
does
not
want
to
favor
any
candidate
because
he
knows
Steve Liesman (Senior Economics Reporter)
02:07.590
it's
the
president
's
choice
also
knows
his
predecessor
is
continually
blamed
by
president
trump
for
the
pick
of
fed
chair
powell
which
he
didn't
like
now
one
person
where
the
president
's
thinking
told
me
this
is
the
most
powerful
man
in
the
world
making
one
of
the
most
Steve Liesman (Senior Economics Reporter)
02:21.270
important
decisions
of
his
administration
the
committee
is
not
going
to
decide
joe
having
looked
at
all
of
this
and
talking
to
i
don't
know
a
lot
of
people
over
the
weekend
i
can't
find
beset
putting
his
finger
on
the
scale
for
any
particular
candidate
what
looks
like
he
does
he
Steve Liesman (Senior Economics Reporter)
02:36.310
may
put
his
finger
on
the
scale
to
bring
it
back
to
neutral
so
the
president
has
a
choice
between
all
these
candidates
but
i
don't
see
him
favoring
anyone
over
another
one
yet
Joe Kernen (Co-Anchor of Squawk Box)
02:45.950
i
mean
i
had
heard
about
that
waller
story
that
you've
talked
about
to
me
it
looked
totally
like
like
a
trial
balloon
like
a
market
check
on
what
leaking
that
wallet
why
would
they
leak
wall
waller
has
a
had
a
strong
interview
without
wanting
to
make
the
market
think
that
waller
Joe Kernen (Co-Anchor of Squawk Box)
03:03.190
was
a
candidate
that
waller
was
a
candidate
and
see
how
it
reacted
or
what
what
the
public
Steve Liesman (Senior Economics Reporter)
03:07.550
having
been
the
person
who
reported
that
reporting
that
story
who
broke
that
story
i
don't
know
that
i
can
understand
the
motive
as
much
as
there
were
some
people
who
said
to
me
Joe Kernen (Co-Anchor of Squawk Box)
03:15.230
when
they
when
they
give
that
to
you
don't
you
ask
yourself
why
are
they
giving
this
to
me
Steve Liesman (Senior Economics Reporter)
03:20.870
i
do
Joe Kernen (Co-Anchor of Squawk Box)
03:21.830
and
what
was
your
conclusion
Steve Liesman (Senior Economics Reporter)
03:25.430
i
don't
know
i
honestly
don't
know
i
don't
do
you
know
i
mean
you
think
it's
i
think
Joe Kernen (Co-Anchor of Squawk Box)
03:28.950
it
was
i
think
it
was
it's
i
think
hassle
was
getting
hammered
i'm
not
really
sure
it's
fair
right
and
i
think
they
want
to
say
look
it
might
not
be
has
it
in
fact
waller
just
had
a
really
strong
what
Steve Liesman (Senior Economics Reporter)
03:39.470
do
you
think
of
this
guy
interested
in
that
joe
because
Joe Kernen (Co-Anchor of Squawk Box)
03:41.710
following
through
because
he's
at
wanting
to
cut
fifty
so
here's
another
guy
who
definitely
is
in
the
the
president's
shares
the
president
's
thinking
on
lower
rates
let's
put
him
up
and
see
how
that
looks
if
we're
worried
about
Steve Liesman (Senior Economics Reporter)
03:56.230
hazard
not
looking
into
putting
him
up
to
see
how
that
looks
you
remember
our
fed
survey
that
showed
eighty
four
percent
think
has
it's
going
to
Joe Kernen (Co-Anchor of Squawk Box)
04:03.070
be
a
way
of
satisfying
wall
street
concerns
about
hassett
and
still
getting
your
fifty
basis
points
immediate
cut
Steve Liesman (Senior Economics Reporter)
04:11.550
maybe
i
mean
wallers
gonna
do
look
there's
a
thinking
about
waller
that
i
think
is
maybe
not
appreciated
which
is
that
it
may
be
that
the
administration
is
beginning
to
understand
the
chair
himself
cannot
cut
rates
they
need
the
committee
so
who's
your
best
person
to
have
in
Steve Liesman (Senior Economics Reporter)
04:28.230
that
job
convince
the
restroom
it
may
be
waller
in
that
case
and
and
like
i
said
the
vibe
we
get
from
people
we
talk
to
say
they
like
waller
now
that
that's
a
thing
that's
like
normal
on
wall
street
where
we
like
the
guy
we
know
and
we
like
the
guy
we
know
in
the
position
that
Steve Liesman (Senior Economics Reporter)
04:43.590
he's
already
been
in
in
a
sense
right
so
that's
sort
of
wall
street
saying
give
us
something
known
here
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