AI's top researchers clash over general intelligence
December 23, 2025 • 1m 56s
Kelly Evans (Anchor)
00:00.070
let's
fight
but
it's
also
more
than
that
a
heated
debate
playing
out
publicly
between
two
of
the
world
's
premier
AI
scientists
they're
facing
off
over
whether
the
technology
can
evenly
match
human
intelligence
or
if
a
new
approach
is
needed
deirdre
bosa
has
more
in
today's
tech
Kelly Evans (Anchor)
00:14.390
check
deirdre
Deirdre Bosa (TechCheck Anchor)
00:16.550
so
haley
this
is
a
real
split
right
at
the
top
of
AI
between
two
of
the
most
influential
minds
in
the
field
it
goes
straight
to
the
core
of
the
AI
trade
and
whether
the
current
build
out
actually
pays
off
so
on
one
side
you've
got
demis
hassabas
founder
of
deepmind
noble
winning
Deirdre Bosa (TechCheck Anchor)
00:30.510
scientists
now
running
AI
at
google
his
view
is
simple
and
that
is
that
today's
large
language
model
scaled
far
enough
are
already
on
a
credible
path
to
general
intelligence
then
you've
got
yan
lecon
on
the
other
side
he's
one
of
the
godfathers
of
modern
AI
too
and
until
Deirdre Bosa (TechCheck Anchor)
00:45.550
recently
he
was
the
chief
AI
scientist
at
meta
i
believe
to
have
been
pushed
out
in
part
because
of
his
view
that
large
language
models
aren't
enough
his
comments
in
a
recent
interview
pouring
gas
on
that
debate
Yann LeCun (Founder)
00:59.110
there
is
no
such
thing
as
general
intelligence
this
concept
makes
absolutely
no
sense
hearing
intelligence
is
super
specialized
this
concept
of
general
intelligence
is
complete
BS
Deirdre Bosa (TechCheck Anchor)
01:13.750
so
kelly
he's
really
calling
into
question
the
entire
assumption
behind
the
industries
capex
bet
the
idea
that
scale
eventually
unlocks
general
intelligence
which
then
unlocks
a
surge
in
economic
output
what
everyone
is
sort
of
pushing
towards
now
elon
musk
has
weighed
in
as
Deirdre Bosa (TechCheck Anchor)
01:28.310
well
he
said
tweeting
demis
is
right
so
if
he
and
hassabis
altman
two
by
the
way
are
correct
the
AI
trade
keeps
working
capex
is
intact
you
keep
sort
of
working
towards
general
intelligence
but
if
yan
lacuna
is
right
than
a
lot
of
today's
capex
looks
premature
and
that
payoff
Deirdre Bosa (TechCheck Anchor)
01:46.670
could
get
pushed
out
so
kelly
this
is
a
debate
that
we're
likely
to
keep
hearing
into
twenty
twenty
six
as
investors
in
the
public
markets
continue
to
question
all
the
spending
and
ROI
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