Treasury Official Joe Lavorgna talks robust Q3 GDP numbers
December 23, 2025 • 4m 50s
Melissa Lee (Host)
00:00.350
for
more
let's
bring
in
joe
livonia
counselor
to
the
secretary
of
the
treasury
department
joe
great
to
have
you
with
us
would
you
agree
with
Joseph Lavorgna (Counselor to the Secretary)
00:06.790
that
sentiment
i
do
i
mean
the
thing
is
the
GDP
numbers
which
we
could
get
into
were
fantastic
was
a
little
private
sector
LED
but
what
struck
me
melissa
is
the
profound
weakness
in
the
interest
sensitive
sectors
of
the
economy
such
as
structures
and
residential
structures
which
Joseph Lavorgna (Counselor to the Secretary)
00:22.980
are
factories
by
the
way
they'll
get
a
huge
lift
with
the
tax
bill
twenty
twenty
six
should
be
great
but
we've
had
seven
quarters
in
a
row
where
structures
investment
declined
three
quarters
in
a
row
were
residential
investments
declined
and
that
certainly
sensitive
related
so
Joseph Lavorgna (Counselor to the Secretary)
00:40.230
yes
the
economy
is
booming
i
still
think
the
potential
the
economy
is
is
excellent
as
the
president
said
in
twenty
twenty
six
should
be
a
banner
year
given
these
current
current
trends
we're
seeing
so
if
the
Melissa Lee (Host)
00:51.390
economy
is
booming
joe
why
why
is
there
a
need
to
hand
out
two
thousand
dollar
stimulus
checks
and
why
is
there
the
need
to
cut
interest
rates
if
the
economy
is
booming
shouldn't
we
be
concerned
about
inflation
Joseph Lavorgna (Counselor to the Secretary)
01:04.850
well
yes
inflation
certainly
an
issue
it
rose
to
a
forty
year
high
under
the
prior
administration
what
we're
seeing
melissa
this
is
a
really
a
capex
LED
boom
we're
seeing
a
significant
narrowing
in
the
trade
deficit
you
will
start
to
see
more
reindustrialization
more
Joseph Lavorgna (Counselor to the Secretary)
01:20.850
reindustrialization
more
building
here
in
the
US
and
those
sort
of
booms
tend
to
be
very
disinflationary
the
yield
curve
is
very
flat
the
real
broad
trade
weighted
dollar
still
at
a
very
high
level
inflation
patients
are
very
well
contained
so
certainly
interest
sensitive
Joseph Lavorgna (Counselor to the Secretary)
01:37.590
activity
which
i
alluded
to
has
been
soft
that
should
recover
if
rates
come
down
and
rates
should
come
down
so
that
the
economy
could
reach
its
full
potential
on
the
checks
i
wouldn't
categorize
that
as
stimulus
checks
that's
money
given
to
a
hard
working
men
and
women
in
the
Joseph Lavorgna (Counselor to the Secretary)
01:52.310
armed
forces
this
was
done
back
in
july
this
isn't
new
information
it'll
go
a
long
way
to
helping
them
deal
with
cost
of
living
increases
OK
Melissa Lee (Host)
02:01.400
so
even
though
it's
it's
money
given
to
somehow
households
it
is
not
going
to
be
inflationary
it's
money
Joseph Lavorgna (Counselor to the Secretary)
02:07.430
yes
it
is
it's
an
important
amount
it's
not
an
amount
that
is
going
to
change
the
inflation
dynamic
a
bigger
number
which
is
going
to
impact
even
a
bigger
swath
of
americans
working
class
americans
the
no
tax
on
tips
and
overtime
those
are
basically
supply
side
initiatives
if
Joseph Lavorgna (Counselor to the Secretary)
02:23.510
you're
going
to
be
encouraged
to
work
more
over
time
you're
working
hard
for
tips
you're
going
to
work
more
we
have
seen
labor
force
participation
edge
higher
i
think
it
will
go
up
significantly
more
next
year
so
again
that's
not
inflation
that
is
more
productive
capacity
more
Joseph Lavorgna (Counselor to the Secretary)
02:38.510
labor
coming
into
the
market
that's
what
we
saw
in
the
first
administration
and
we
should
see
it
again
supply
side
driven
growth
so
Melissa Lee (Host)
02:46.270
it
do
you
think
that
there
is
not
any
inflation
problem
inflationary
problems
in
the
economy
at
this
point
i
mean
when
americans
are
facing
higher
health
care
costs
and
higher
electricity
costs
and
higher
insurance
costs
is
there
an
inflation
problem
is
the
fed
too
hung
up
on
Melissa Lee (Host)
03:03.070
inflation
Joseph Lavorgna (Counselor to the Secretary)
03:05.230
well
inflation
you
know
right
now
inflation
the
inflation
rate
right
now
is
is
two
seven
it
was
a
little
higher
than
that
the
last
month
that
joe
biden
was
in
office
inflation
we
believe
will
go
lower
gasoline
and
energy
more
broadly
speaking
melissa
is
a
very
important
Joseph Lavorgna (Counselor to the Secretary)
03:22.550
disinflationary
force
because
gasoline
energy
is
used
in
so
many
products
there
are
many
second
and
third
order
effects
we
do
expect
the
inflation
rate
to
move
lower
the
markets
are
certainly
in
agreement
with
that
as
i
mentioned
inflation
expect
are
very
stable
we
are
seeing
if
Joseph Lavorgna (Counselor to the Secretary)
03:37.710
look
at
blue
collar
wages
non
supervisory
production
workers
through
the
first
eleven
months
of
this
year
wages
are
up
one
point
six
percent
annualized
that
is
one
of
the
biggest
increases
starting
new
administration
in
decades
so
the
policies
are
trying
to
be
designed
to
raise
Joseph Lavorgna (Counselor to the Secretary)
03:53.110
after
tax
incomes
lower
the
inflation
rate
build
up
productive
capacity
and
improve
living
standards
right
now
i
say
the
record
is
very
good
nobody
thought
that
i
spoke
to
even
in
the
private
sector
thought
the
economy
could
generate
four
percent
type
of
growth
two
quarters
in
a
Joseph Lavorgna (Counselor to the Secretary)
04:07.310
row
and
we
know
from
the
last
CPI
which
is
november
cause
inflation
data
today
are
stale
we
know
from
the
november
inflation
data
inflation
surprised
meaningfully
to
the
downside
so
we
hope
these
trends
and
believe
these
trends
will
continue
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